mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
This is my entry for Carnival of Aros September about language, using the prompt: How do you feel about how the aro community at large handles discussions on terminology?


I Stopped To Rest

Terminology and semantics were/are a regular topic of discussion in aromantic spaces. It is a good topic, mostly. There are only so many ‘What am I?’ newbie posts you can stomach before they blur into one and you struggle to find polite phrasing to garnish a reply of ‘You gotta work it out for yourself. Forum guidelines mean I can’t label you anyway.’ …so we stop bothering to reply. If you look you will see, it is rare for one of those newbie topics to get five replies or more. 

I enjoyed the terminology and semantics discussions, mostly. What else is there to talk about that is constructive? That is an abstract non-personal way for community building? Actually hearing different people’s views and others questioning them. It was like the words were being twisted and pulled like taffy, being made better and more robust, or passing into obscurity as their faults were laid bare. No need to drag out personal experiences of lust or abuse. I enjoyed those discussions, until I didn’t. 

I needed a break from all sorts of things. I stopped to rest. But things move quickly on the internet. I have been out of the loop for quite a while. I wonder how things have progressed…

I no longer have the starter’s passion for reinvestigating everything aromantic. But if I come back to the community is my knowledge still valid? Is my vocabulary still suitable? Are my words still understandable? Or have terms and meanings shifted so much that I speak a dead language?

Being left behind by your own community because of a shift in language is something being experiences by many older members of longer established groups. Talking and discussing has become a minefield. As far as I know there is no comprehensive map of this minefield. Some people have done etymologies of specific terms. Complex tangled linkspams showing how a term was coined and developed. They are greatly informative but these rely on the links remaining active and accessible. 

It would be great if we had a flexible dictionary. A centralised place where all language specific to us was compiled and the various meanings listed, etymology too (with references!). I have been resting, so who knows, this might already exist. If all languages were welcomed and represented there would be a much richer basis of thought for our community to draw on. 

…But mostly I want people to be kind. We must realise that we have an exceptionally fluid vocabulary. Some people may be using an old meaning when they talk. They may have been resting. 
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I was going to post this earlier as a companion piece to my previous article but I needed to collect some information, then I thought I could tie it into the Carnival of Aros for this month but it has ended up being sort of carnival-adjacent as it doesn’t really follow the subject or prompts.

Warning: Mostly about race issues )
mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
I studied identity and self at university many years ago, so I have half remembered frameworks floating around in the back of my mind. I could do my research and find all my sources (because I still have all my readers, textbooks and work assignments) but I felt I just had to get this down in words or it would never happen. I can always come back and add references as I refine my ideas…
 
It can be understood that self has 2 basic components, an personal sense that you control by choices you make, and a external perception within society where other people make assumptions about you. Basically what you think about yourself and what other people think about you. 
 
Labels can be ones you choose for yourself or are assigned to you by others. Labels are everywhere and most are not questioned or cause reaction. There is no reaction to these because you have in someway chosen or feel that they are accurate. Your job description, your generation moniker, your hair colour, your nationality. 
 
But society works on defaults, so it is possible for externally applied labels to be ill-fitting or wrong, which leads to questioning. Finding a label can be cathartic, or bring a sense of freedom and community. That is when you are accepting a label you have found that fits your own sense of self. 
 
When you are confronted by people in society labeling you with words defining their perception of you, things you may not have thought of (let alone questioned) or simply have a gut reaction against, things get painful*. Most of the discussion I have seen is in regards to gender and pronouns, but I remember a bit of argument just after I joined Arocalypse surrounding the use of alloromantic. 
 
My Aromantic Section )   
 
 
 
 
*That is why most forums have rules about labeling others, and pronouns are made explicit in introductions or profiles. 
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Most people learn how to walk once in their life. Most people, though I don't know how common it is, have to learn to walk several times in their lives. I myself have had to learn several times. Some times it was easier than others because of the conditions I had to overcome, and thinking about it I have to point out that 'learning to walk' is not always the baby's first steps which generally pops into everyone's mind.

There are three* different conditions of learning to walk:
1. Blank Slate. The brain has to learn balance, movement and control. Eg. Baby's first steps, brain injuries
2. New Equipment. Something alters the walk which has to be altered or completely relearnt. Eg. Wearing heels, prosthetics, being pregnant
3. Uncrippling. Something has happened over time which has lead to unnatural movement, then the condition is relieved and you have to learn to move again. Eg. Knee/hip replacement, Muscle wasting, arthritis

Arguably muscle wasting could be classified as Blank Slate....depending on how walking is recovered. 

I Blank Slated as a baby, with wedge shoes and stilettos I have New Equiptmented twice (and it feels every time I put heels on I have to do a refresher course) and then there is the Uncrippling...well I have done that in a major way at least twice and in a minor way at least twice more. 

So that is the framework of thinking that I use. Which led me to my medicated thought, I was in pain and watching a heavily pregnant woman waddle which made me think of the time I got around walking on the balls of my feet because my knees were so bent I could not get my heels down and keep my balance. Because I have had to learn to walk so many ways, and arguably women in general have to learn to walk many more times in their lives than men, would it give us a benefit if we had to learn to walk again? Learning to adjust walking patterns surely must strengthen an internal dictionary of walking information. New adjusted balance, new rhythms, new movements, repeated learning of control. 

We have to learn new or adjusted skills through focus, but once humans get the hang of something it is generally relegated to background levels of the brain so that it can just 'happen' and we can use our brains to focus on other things, information on this is not hard to find, just think of all the parents who have to teach their kids to drive and suddenly feel lost. Each type of learning to walk has its own difficulties, but my own experiences with Uncrippling was the worst because it is so hard not to fall back on bad habits because they hurt less or get you there faster. Though with that I have a much safer balance now than ever before simply because I had to spend so long focusing on it. If I had to learn to walk again I would hope that some of that information is stuck in my brain and I would unconsciously retain some patterns. So all those people who trained themselves to stride in stilettos, have waddled under the weight of a baby, have gone to physiotherapy for professional guidance in structurally healthy locomotion, will we (re)learn faster in the future? 


*Three at least, there are probably more. 

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Jun. 11th, 2020 01:19 pm
mesotablar: Echidna on leaves (Default)
 I have had my first trip in an ambulance! I was in so much pain I only remember the paramedic had very defined eyebrows. I can also add myself to the great number of Australians who have experienced ramping.
It was a very educational trip to the Emergency Department because I found out the hard way that I have bad reactions to several strong pain killers. So not fun. 
I should be fine, I have a cornucopia of pills to help be achieve health again. Though my head still feels like a jelly dropped at the top of some stairs. 

My last post was private as I was just archiving my book lists, but now I feel I should share some of the things I was reading before.
Let the linkspam commence! )
mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
Discussion of romance repulsion is a regular feature in aromantic spaces. Who has it. What triggers it. What it feels like. Can you get over it. Does it get worse.How sick has it made you. Lots and lots of talk. 
But
Everyone is different, and so all of this 'repulsion' is different, in symptoms but also in strength. This can be an issue because many times we are asked to compare it to something else, something the listener can relate to. 

In an asexual space I came across one person advocating for the use of the word 'appreciation' to be used as a descriptor for weaker-than-attraction feelings. Aversion was proposed as the weaker-than-repulsion equivalent. I don't expect these words to be standardised to mean the same thing for everyone, but rather it would be useful for people to use as an internal scale so they may more clearly express their feelings or reactions. I would love if people would begin using these more scaled terms when/if applicable. 

Attraction > Appreciation > Neutral > Aversion > Repulsion

For my example: )
mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
Recently I have gone through emotional changes and this past week I seem to keep finding the same topics popping up again and again, which I choose to take as a sign that I should try to work through some of my feelings. 

I grew up in an environment of conservative and progressive influences, I'm sure many people have but all in our own unique recipe of the two. Since the deaths in my family I have found I am more body confident than I had been in years. I am also feeling much more settled inside myself as a person. For the first time in forever I feel like my internal storm has truly abated and I can see the internal scene and all the accumulated debris. Which lead about the terrible realisation that much of the dissatisfaction was actually external input. Semi-regular flippant comments about hair and weight, dating and boys, physical ability and life goals, that I thought I had ignored actually cut me deeply. Now those thoughts which were not my own are now literally in the grave with the persons who made them.  

I am not a good self-critic. I can only analyse things in hindsight if I am prompted to do so. Basically much of the time I flail and hope I come across other people who give me ideas to make sense of my reactions and life. 

I have discovered I do in fact have quite a lot of internalised misogyny linked to a sense of inferiority related to my disability (Internalised Ableism Alert!). I don't even know if misogyny is really the right word, a more apt term might be Toxic Femininity. I push back against amatonormativity a lot. I feel that expectations of romantic love force themselves on me all the time, but might I be letting them in to torment me? My last post 'Females Love' talked about this. I have internal expectations of what women are, very traditional European ideals. If I write them out specifically I see how silly they are and can rebuke them but there is still this deep vague sense that they are correct. 

Being in Queer spaces has exposed me to many people of different genders and many different journeys those people have made to get there. I have no gender journey, do I? How am I female then? How do I know? up rises the 28 year old monster of memories of comments, expectations and traditions (this monster it seems has always been present lurking beneath the surface and informing my experiences, but it lets itself be seen every so often). I have no role models who are aromantic or disabled in the same way I am, let alone both. Truthfully I was never really interested finding any. One group I am intrinsicly connected to is my bloodline, so they sort of became my 'best fit' role models for certain things, and it certainly makes sense when it comes to health history. But what of the rest of history?

Half of my family migrated to Australia after WWII, and they kept almost nothing of their old home countries, very little sense of culture was passed down. So I, wanting some sort of anchor clasped whatever I could. Much of that is from a time almost unrecognisable, but I absorbed it and in many ways I thought it applicable to me. Deep inside I still think it is applicable to me, but that is just causing me pain, but is it worse to keep pushing against external factors I invite in or to remove all the internalised issues themselves?
Here is a list of some which I abstractly know are not true to my experience but they are specific to my sense of who my family is and in turn who I am. 
(TL;DR I've had this list of stuff subtly reinforced in me for 28 years, now I'm deciding to try to purge it. I'm so screwed) 
  • Love can grow from passion
  • Certainty-of-marriage-partner at first sight/Love at first sight is real
  • a long-term relationship is the most significant relationship you will have outside of children (Sometimes not even children)
  • a partner gives you better social status
  • families arrange suitable suitors 
  • family approval is of the upmost importance
  • you must master the duties of a housewife
  • sacrificing everything for love may improve your future
  • Being submissive is better
  • being slightly masochistic will serve you well because life/love is painful
  • get married as a young virgin 
mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
 So the 'Romo-zone' is like the romantic equivalent of the friend-zone.
It is used in those situations when someone who you thought was a friend was actually only interested in being around you and doing activities with you because they are romantically attracted to you. Basically you may get romo-zoned by the people who are complaining about being friend-zoned. 
I am wondering if I should do some art to illustrate the ....essence.... of these two 'zones' from an aromantic's perspective....
I see romo-zone as being the less problematic, self-mocking, little sibling of friend-zone but my art might not turn out that way!!
Stay posted. 
mesotablar: Apressexual flag as text (Apressexual)
I have heard it said that generally people feel several attractions together. Their attractions are not separable as they flow organically from each other. Apressexuality in its basic definitions is only experiencing sexual attraction after another form of attraction is felt. So you feel some sort of attraction then sexual attraction shows up. Most people probably feel it that way so why do we have a word for something that can probably just be assumed in heteronormativity? Or any sort of normativity…

Not even the person who coined Apres- seems to have done so for sexual attraction, rather they coined it in terms of being Apresplatonic.


When I was questioning I was searching for a label or at least some indication that my experiences were not unique. I stumbled upon Aromantic and it explained so much! but there was a blank spot because ‘Aromantic’ does not cover the basic attraction that had brought me back searching LGBTQIA+ sites again, sexual attraction.

I probably would have been okay just identifying as Aromantic. And for the most part I do. In online spaces however where discussions get technical and nuanced within the a-spectrum communities I tend to use both the Aromantic and Apressexual labels.
Maybe so that people don’t assume I am ace.
Maybe so that people don’t assume I am allosexual.
Maybe to acknowledge that other attractions besides sexual and romantic can be important too.
Maybe to see if I can find others who use the same label so I can hear how they use it.
Maybe, because it means a blend of attraction I am happiest using the label to acknowledge the blend rather than just letting ‘a blend’ be assumed.

The bottom line is I don’t like separating out my attractions. I don’t experience them as separate. They are all steps on the same path, and the path is paved with Aromantic stones. That said, I can identify them as different when they occur (using hindsight and lots of thinking comparisons) and isolate them to discreet incidents (because they aren’t constant, or even common).


When it happens:
I guess it comes close to those descriptions of love at first sight (which totally isn’t ‘love’ by the way). I see or hear the person for the first time and it is there. Generally sensual attraction, things to do with the senses; looking, touching, hearing or tasting (….let’s just ignore smelling).

I become hyper focused on them to the point where the rest of the world fades out. I get fixated on the part of them that attracts me. It is like an irresistible lure BUT there is no guarantee that sexual attraction will show up HOWEVER I have only ever felt sexual attraction to someone in the wake of these other feelings (while my Aromantic-ness goes into overdrive which makes me more sensitive to things I perceive as romantic) Though in the moment everything just feels like one big ‘more’.
I don’t think they are suddenly great people.
I don’t suddenly trust them.
I don’t even need to know their names.
I don’t think about them when they’re not around.
I can’t be friends with these people. I find them much too distracting.
(Have you seen the movie Upstream Color? For me, these people are disfigured by being made of the sun)

Thankfully the attractions are rare, less than an annual event, so I don’t get distracted like this all the time. Though their rarity might be why I haven’t developed a defence against them or coping mechanisms for when they happen. I just get sucked along by the experience. When I need it to stop I have to remove myself from their presence. Luckily I can use the initial feelings of mindless fascination as a warning, so if the situation or person is unsuitable, inappropriate or more than mildly disgusting I can get myself away before the attraction has a chance to progress (thought there is always the chance that it will not end up including sexual attraction, which is more of a once every 5 years event). Though of course there have been a few situations where I couldn’t escape and was stuck around someone who affected me.

I am not Asexual because I can and have experienced sexual attraction, but my experiences don’t line up with what most Allosexual allies say. I can use the Greysexual label quite happily, but then some people want specifics about how/why/when (which are legitimate enquiries when people need help in their own questioning process) and to describe my experience I end up basically writing out an expanded definition for Apressexual. The label exists so why not use it when I feel it matches my experiences so well?

It is a micro-label. A micro label that seems to consist of a population of ONE, me (drop me a line if you use Apressexual too! or if you are questioning it!). Having a label allows me to be vague about my experiences. Sure, I may have to explain the label or how I relate to it but I find that much more comfortable than continually typing out very personal experiences that may or may not help anyone anyway.

I found an accurate word so that is what I am going to use.
(until someone works out an easy way to blend romantic and sexual orientation language)
mesotablar: Aromantic flag as text (Aromantic)
I very recently got into a discussion regarding the Split Attraction Model (SAM)
(Here if you are interested in seeing it)
Sure, I had used SAM to help me work out my orientation labels but does that mean I still use SAM? what does non-SAM even mean? I got more confused and hoped no one would ask me whether I use SAM or non-SAM. Well, someone asked. I think I tied myself up in words trying to answer so I am going to try and sort things out with pictures!
Click for pretty pictures )

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